Human Nature and Dark Triad Childhood

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The correlation between unpredictability in childhood and criminal behavior in adulthood is particularly striking (r = .40, p < .01). This correlation is roughly the same size as the correlation between socioeconomic status and SAT scores. The educated class loves to talk about the effect of wealth on test scores. Seldom do they discuss the effect of instability in childhood giving rise to harmful behaviors in adulthood.

Since then, I’ve been curious about how childhood instability affects other life outcomes.

And found that childhood instability is linked to two important personality constellations: The Dark Triad and the Light Triad.

The Dark Triad encompasses three personality traits:

1. Narcissism (grandiosity, self-importance, entitlement)

2. Psychopathy (callousness, cynicism, impulsivity)

3. Machiavellianism (strategically exploitative, duplicitous, manipulative)

In a 2016 study published in the journal Evolutionary Psychology titled “Resources, Harshness, and Unpredictability: The Socioeconomic Conditions Associated with the Dark Triad Traits,” researchers measured Dark Triad traits in people.

They reported how much they agreed with statements such as:

  • “Many group activities tend to be dull without me” and “People see me as a natural leader” (Narcissism)
  • “People who mess with me always regret it” and “I like to pick on losers” (psychopathy)
  • “It’s wise to keep track of information that you can use against people later” and “Avoid direct conflict with others because they may be useful in the future”

They then responded to various statements about their childhood:

  • “My parents had a difficult divorce or separation during this time” and “People often moved in and out of my house in a pretty random basis” (childhood instability)
  • “I grew up in a relatively wealthy neighborhood” and “My family usually had enough money for things when I was growing up” (childhood socioeconomic status)


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Researchers found that instability in childhood was associated with all three dimensions of the Dark Triad in adulthood. The strongest link was with psychopathy (r = .23). Across the entire Dark Triad scale, the correlation was r = .20. Not huge, but still noteworthy. Roughly equivalent to the link between grades and future earnings.

The effect was especially large for men, relative to women. That is, boys raised in unstable homes were particularly likely to have high Dark Triad scores in adulthood.

Interestingly, childhood socioeconomic status had no assiocation with Dark Triad traits in adulthood.

Being poor doesn’t have the same effect as living in chaos.

As the researchers conclude, “All people may have the potential to be high or low on the Dark Triad traits…exposure to specific conditions is the precipitating factor, which determines people trait activation and position on the Dark Triad continuum. Experiences (or at the very least, recollection of) of childhood unpredictability may be some of the prerequisite conditions to active the dormant selfishness, competitiveness, and antisociality found in the Dark Triad traits.”


***


The psychologist and author Tamás Bereczkei has written that, “Although genetic factors may have a certain role in the development of the Machiavellian lifestyle and thinking, Machiavellianism is primarily a result of environmental effects.”

Others have suggested that environmental factors can affect the behavioral expression of psychopathy.

Robert Hare, the foremost expert on psychopathy, has written, “social factors and parenting practices help to shape the behavioral expression of psychopathy, but have less effect on the inability to feel empathy or develop a conscience. No amount of social conditioning by itself will generate a capacity for caring.”

Hare is saying that the psychology of psychopaths can’t be changed.

But the behavioral expression of psychopathy can be shaped by parental and environmental factors. For Dexter fans, this was the reasoning behind “the code of Harry.” Dexter’s adoptive father recognized that Dexter would always have the desire to kill. So he directed Dexter’s impulse away from innocent people.

To be clear, the Dark Triad is not a diagnostic tool for mental disorders. It measures subclinical psychopathy and narcissism. Though if someone scores at the uppermost end of those sub-scales, they might qualify for an official diagnosis.

In a real-life case of psychopathy, a few years ago, a neuroscientist named James Fallon discovered that he himself is a psychopath. He was once a self-proclaimed genetic determinist, but changed his mind. He considered how his warm upbringing constrained his darker impulses. And said, ‘I was loved, and that protected me.’”

Fallon believes that had he been raised in a different environment (i.e., not in a stable middle-class family), his life would look very different today.


***


Now onto the Light Triad. This is a constellation of three prosocial traits:

1. Humanism (appreciation of the successes and creations of others)

2. Kantianism (tendency toward behaving with integrity and honesty rather than deceit and charm)

3. Faith in humanity (believing that people are generally good and worthy of trust)

To be clear, both the Light and Dark Triad concepts exist on a spectrum. There is a bit of both in all of us. But a person who scores particularly high on one or the other would be someone you’d either trust or avoid.

In a 2019 study titled “The Light vs. Dark Triad of Personality: Contrasting Two Very Different Profiles of Human Nature,” researchers asked people how much they agreed with statements like:

  • “I tend to applaud the successes of other people” and “I enjoy listening to people from all walks of life” (Humanism)
  • “I prefer honesty over charm” and “When I talk to people, I am rarely thinking about what I want from them” (Kantianism)
  • “I tend to see the best in people” and “I tend to trust that other people will deal fairly with me” (Faith in humanity)

Then they responded to statements about their childhood family income and childhood unpredictability.

Researchers found that instability in childhood was negatively associated with Light Triad traits (r = -.21). In other words, the more unstable a person’s childhood, the lower their scores on the Light Triad.

Childhood socioeconomic status had no relationship with Light Triad traits in adulthood. This mirrors the finding that childhood socioeconomic status did not predict Dark Triad traits in adulthood.

In short, having an unstable childhood appears to lead to an increase in deception, coldness, impulsivity, and aggression. And a decrease in kindness, trust, generosity, and honesty.
 
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I had an unstable childhood but id say im mostly light triad, definitely have anger issues tho
 
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Interesting find, thanks for sharing this with us. I'll divorce my wife to help my son darktriadmaxx.
 
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The correlation between unpredictability in childhood and criminal behavior in adulthood is particularly striking (r = .40, p < .01). This correlation is roughly the same size as the correlation between socioeconomic status and SAT scores. The educated class loves to talk about the effect of wealth on test scores. Seldom do they discuss the effect of instability in childhood giving rise to harmful behaviors in adulthood.

Since then, I’ve been curious about how childhood instability affects other life outcomes.

And found that childhood instability is linked to two important personality constellations: The Dark Triad and the Light Triad.

The Dark Triad encompasses three personality traits:

1. Narcissism (grandiosity, self-importance, entitlement)

2. Psychopathy (callousness, cynicism, impulsivity)

3. Machiavellianism (strategically exploitative, duplicitous, manipulative)

In a 2016 study published in the journal Evolutionary Psychology titled “Resources, Harshness, and Unpredictability: The Socioeconomic Conditions Associated with the Dark Triad Traits,” researchers measured Dark Triad traits in people.

They reported how much they agreed with statements such as:

  • “Many group activities tend to be dull without me” and “People see me as a natural leader” (Narcissism)
  • “People who mess with me always regret it” and “I like to pick on losers” (psychopathy)
  • “It’s wise to keep track of information that you can use against people later” and “Avoid direct conflict with others because they may be useful in the future”

They then responded to various statements about their childhood:

  • “My parents had a difficult divorce or separation during this time” and “People often moved in and out of my house in a pretty random basis” (childhood instability)
  • “I grew up in a relatively wealthy neighborhood” and “My family usually had enough money for things when I was growing up” (childhood socioeconomic status)


***


Researchers found that instability in childhood was associated with all three dimensions of the Dark Triad in adulthood. The strongest link was with psychopathy (r = .23). Across the entire Dark Triad scale, the correlation was r = .20. Not huge, but still noteworthy. Roughly equivalent to the link between grades and future earnings.

The effect was especially large for men, relative to women. That is, boys raised in unstable homes were particularly likely to have high Dark Triad scores in adulthood.

Interestingly, childhood socioeconomic status had no assiocation with Dark Triad traits in adulthood.

Being poor doesn’t have the same effect as living in chaos.

As the researchers conclude, “All people may have the potential to be high or low on the Dark Triad traits…exposure to specific conditions is the precipitating factor, which determines people trait activation and position on the Dark Triad continuum. Experiences (or at the very least, recollection of) of childhood unpredictability may be some of the prerequisite conditions to active the dormant selfishness, competitiveness, and antisociality found in the Dark Triad traits.”


***


The psychologist and author Tamás Bereczkei has written that, “Although genetic factors may have a certain role in the development of the Machiavellian lifestyle and thinking, Machiavellianism is primarily a result of environmental effects.”

Others have suggested that environmental factors can affect the behavioral expression of psychopathy.

Robert Hare, the foremost expert on psychopathy, has written, “social factors and parenting practices help to shape the behavioral expression of psychopathy, but have less effect on the inability to feel empathy or develop a conscience. No amount of social conditioning by itself will generate a capacity for caring.”

Hare is saying that the psychology of psychopaths can’t be changed.

But the behavioral expression of psychopathy can be shaped by parental and environmental factors. For Dexter fans, this was the reasoning behind “the code of Harry.” Dexter’s adoptive father recognized that Dexter would always have the desire to kill. So he directed Dexter’s impulse away from innocent people.

To be clear, the Dark Triad is not a diagnostic tool for mental disorders. It measures subclinical psychopathy and narcissism. Though if someone scores at the uppermost end of those sub-scales, they might qualify for an official diagnosis.

In a real-life case of psychopathy, a few years ago, a neuroscientist named James Fallon discovered that he himself is a psychopath. He was once a self-proclaimed genetic determinist, but changed his mind. He considered how his warm upbringing constrained his darker impulses. And said, ‘I was loved, and that protected me.’”

Fallon believes that had he been raised in a different environment (i.e., not in a stable middle-class family), his life would look very different today.


***


Now onto the Light Triad. This is a constellation of three prosocial traits:

1. Humanism (appreciation of the successes and creations of others)

2. Kantianism (tendency toward behaving with integrity and honesty rather than deceit and charm)

3. Faith in humanity (believing that people are generally good and worthy of trust)

To be clear, both the Light and Dark Triad concepts exist on a spectrum. There is a bit of both in all of us. But a person who scores particularly high on one or the other would be someone you’d either trust or avoid.

In a 2019 study titled “The Light vs. Dark Triad of Personality: Contrasting Two Very Different Profiles of Human Nature,” researchers asked people how much they agreed with statements like:

  • “I tend to applaud the successes of other people” and “I enjoy listening to people from all walks of life” (Humanism)
  • “I prefer honesty over charm” and “When I talk to people, I am rarely thinking about what I want from them” (Kantianism)
  • “I tend to see the best in people” and “I tend to trust that other people will deal fairly with me” (Faith in humanity)

Then they responded to statements about their childhood family income and childhood unpredictability.

Researchers found that instability in childhood was negatively associated with Light Triad traits (r = -.21). In other words, the more unstable a person’s childhood, the lower their scores on the Light Triad.

Childhood socioeconomic status had no relationship with Light Triad traits in adulthood. This mirrors the finding that childhood socioeconomic status did not predict Dark Triad traits in adulthood.

In short, having an unstable childhood appears to lead to an increase in deception, coldness, impulsivity, and aggression. And a decrease in kindness, trust, generosity, and honesty.
If you are fragile and weak, and you show symptoms of dark triad you will get reverse bully, the goal is to get strong so i can revenge to those who ego me in high school
 
thats very interesting
Too bad I had a stable childhood and now Im a little bitch
 
I don’t think this has a lot of merit tbh

I believe dark triad is encompassed by genes, and how you were raised by the world
 
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I don’t think this has a lot of merit tbh

I believe dark triad is encompassed by genes, and how you were raised by the world
I had an extremely unstable family with different stepmoms and stepfathers and I am incredibly light triad just because of my experiences
 
It's hard to say if my childhood was good, although I have great memories, I was humiliated and beaten a lot.
My narcissism and Machiavellianism are high, but I've always been too empathetic.
 
Ok chad
 
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The correlation between unpredictability in childhood and criminal behavior in adulthood is particularly striking (r = .40, p < .01). This correlation is roughly the same size as the correlation between socioeconomic status and SAT scores. The educated class loves to talk about the effect of wealth on test scores. Seldom do they discuss the effect of instability in childhood giving rise to harmful behaviors in adulthood.

Since then, I’ve been curious about how childhood instability affects other life outcomes.

And found that childhood instability is linked to two important personality constellations: The Dark Triad and the Light Triad.

The Dark Triad encompasses three personality traits:

1. Narcissism (grandiosity, self-importance, entitlement)

2. Psychopathy (callousness, cynicism, impulsivity)

3. Machiavellianism (strategically exploitative, duplicitous, manipulative)

In a 2016 study published in the journal Evolutionary Psychology titled “Resources, Harshness, and Unpredictability: The Socioeconomic Conditions Associated with the Dark Triad Traits,” researchers measured Dark Triad traits in people.

They reported how much they agreed with statements such as:

  • “Many group activities tend to be dull without me” and “People see me as a natural leader” (Narcissism)
  • “People who mess with me always regret it” and “I like to pick on losers” (psychopathy)
  • “It’s wise to keep track of information that you can use against people later” and “Avoid direct conflict with others because they may be useful in the future”

They then responded to various statements about their childhood:

  • “My parents had a difficult divorce or separation during this time” and “People often moved in and out of my house in a pretty random basis” (childhood instability)
  • “I grew up in a relatively wealthy neighborhood” and “My family usually had enough money for things when I was growing up” (childhood socioeconomic status)


***


Researchers found that instability in childhood was associated with all three dimensions of the Dark Triad in adulthood. The strongest link was with psychopathy (r = .23). Across the entire Dark Triad scale, the correlation was r = .20. Not huge, but still noteworthy. Roughly equivalent to the link between grades and future earnings.

The effect was especially large for men, relative to women. That is, boys raised in unstable homes were particularly likely to have high Dark Triad scores in adulthood.

Interestingly, childhood socioeconomic status had no assiocation with Dark Triad traits in adulthood.

Being poor doesn’t have the same effect as living in chaos.

As the researchers conclude, “All people may have the potential to be high or low on the Dark Triad traits…exposure to specific conditions is the precipitating factor, which determines people trait activation and position on the Dark Triad continuum. Experiences (or at the very least, recollection of) of childhood unpredictability may be some of the prerequisite conditions to active the dormant selfishness, competitiveness, and antisociality found in the Dark Triad traits.”


***


The psychologist and author Tamás Bereczkei has written that, “Although genetic factors may have a certain role in the development of the Machiavellian lifestyle and thinking, Machiavellianism is primarily a result of environmental effects.”

Others have suggested that environmental factors can affect the behavioral expression of psychopathy.

Robert Hare, the foremost expert on psychopathy, has written, “social factors and parenting practices help to shape the behavioral expression of psychopathy, but have less effect on the inability to feel empathy or develop a conscience. No amount of social conditioning by itself will generate a capacity for caring.”

Hare is saying that the psychology of psychopaths can’t be changed.

But the behavioral expression of psychopathy can be shaped by parental and environmental factors. For Dexter fans, this was the reasoning behind “the code of Harry.” Dexter’s adoptive father recognized that Dexter would always have the desire to kill. So he directed Dexter’s impulse away from innocent people.

To be clear, the Dark Triad is not a diagnostic tool for mental disorders. It measures subclinical psychopathy and narcissism. Though if someone scores at the uppermost end of those sub-scales, they might qualify for an official diagnosis.

In a real-life case of psychopathy, a few years ago, a neuroscientist named James Fallon discovered that he himself is a psychopath. He was once a self-proclaimed genetic determinist, but changed his mind. He considered how his warm upbringing constrained his darker impulses. And said, ‘I was loved, and that protected me.’”

Fallon believes that had he been raised in a different environment (i.e., not in a stable middle-class family), his life would look very different today.


***


Now onto the Light Triad. This is a constellation of three prosocial traits:

1. Humanism (appreciation of the successes and creations of others)

2. Kantianism (tendency toward behaving with integrity and honesty rather than deceit and charm)

3. Faith in humanity (believing that people are generally good and worthy of trust)

To be clear, both the Light and Dark Triad concepts exist on a spectrum. There is a bit of both in all of us. But a person who scores particularly high on one or the other would be someone you’d either trust or avoid.

In a 2019 study titled “The Light vs. Dark Triad of Personality: Contrasting Two Very Different Profiles of Human Nature,” researchers asked people how much they agreed with statements like:

  • “I tend to applaud the successes of other people” and “I enjoy listening to people from all walks of life” (Humanism)
  • “I prefer honesty over charm” and “When I talk to people, I am rarely thinking about what I want from them” (Kantianism)
  • “I tend to see the best in people” and “I tend to trust that other people will deal fairly with me” (Faith in humanity)

Then they responded to statements about their childhood family income and childhood unpredictability.

Researchers found that instability in childhood was negatively associated with Light Triad traits (r = -.21). In other words, the more unstable a person’s childhood, the lower their scores on the Light Triad.

Childhood socioeconomic status had no relationship with Light Triad traits in adulthood. This mirrors the finding that childhood socioeconomic status did not predict Dark Triad traits in adulthood.

In short, having an unstable childhood appears to lead to an increase in deception, coldness, impulsivity, and aggression. And a decrease in kindness, trust, generosity, and honesty.
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Lmao isn't this normal middle school behavior
 
Makes sense, people with bad childhood or shit parents end up dark triad later in life
 
Dark triad is important if you want to survive in this world
 
I'm not dark or light triad
 
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